kadymae ([info]kadymae) wrote in [info]wine,

Barefoot Pinot Noir

So, the next wine on my journey through Barefoot is their Pinot Noir.

Thanks to Sideways, there are a lot of cheap, crappy Pinot Noirs on the market today. Pinot Noir is a fussy diva of a grape, and frankly, unless you want to lay out at least $30, you're going to get an "eh" bottle of wine.

On the other hand, if you're going spend under $30 for a bottle of Pinot Noir, it might as well be Barefoot Pinot Noir.

Color: A darker, richer "wine" color than most other Pinots I've seen. (I wonder what the blending grape is.)

Sniff Test: Black Cherries and Toasty Vanilla, very pleasantly so.

First Impressions: Black Cherry up front, tannins on middle, some allspice on the finish.

Breathing room: Black Cherry up front, a bland, slightly less tannic middle, definite allspice on the end, and a pleasant vanilla aftertaste. Mouthfeel is light, as if this were a white wine.

Verdict: Like I said, if you're going to spring for an bottle of Pinot Noir in the $7-10 range, it might as well be this. The cherries up front and that lingering vanilla finish, make it pleasant as an everyday table wine, but the middle note is nothing but tannins and that's a serious shortcoming.

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[info]psychgurl

December 16 2009, 12:34:24 UTC 2 years ago

I have found some boutique wineries with Pinot Noirs between $10-30 that are fabulous. I personally don't like any of the Barefoot wines enough to spend the $8 or so.
Cooper's Hawk Pinot Noir is great (they don't distribute but some states can order online) - as is Newport Vineyards, from IL and RI respectively. And, I find the Mark West Pinot Noir not too bad for a lower price point.

[info]mediaguru

December 16 2009, 15:23:47 UTC 2 years ago

I have to say, I can't stand to buy Barefoot wines for myself or subject any friends to it. I've tried them (some of them) but just can't do it. Simply not good stuff. I know it's cheap, but at that price point I'd rather pay 50%-100% more and get a bottle of wine I actually enjoy. (I haven't tried all their varietals, but enough of them to realize the quality is not up to task. I don't think I tried their pinot, because any pinots I've tried under $15 have been horrible... sometimes not even drinkable)

There are some great Oregon pinots for under $30. Granted, most of them are in the mid-$20s. One I just had which was pretty decent -- good value for the price ($19.99) -- was from Amity Vineyards

[info]kadymae

December 17 2009, 00:26:14 UTC 2 years ago

I have to say, I can't stand to buy Barefoot wines for myself or subject any friends to it.

I'm drinking my way through their offerings for the "oh, why the hell not" factor of it.

I don't think I tried their pinot, because any pinots I've tried under $15 have been horrible... sometimes not even drinkable.

This has been pretty much my experience, too. I've found some under $15 wines (Merlot, Zin, Riesling, Shiraz, Gewurztraminer) that I think are fantastic values for the money. I've yet to find a value PN that I thought offered a lot of bang for the buck.

[info]mediaguru

December 17 2009, 01:56:04 UTC 2 years ago

I've found some under $15 wines (Merlot, Zin, Riesling, Shiraz, Gewurztraminer) that I think are fantastic values for the money.

definitely.

not so sure about the merlot, but the other varietals you mention seem to be more reasonable bets at the low-end prices


So, word to the wise: if you like wine and want to "drink cheap", look for some of those varietals mentioned above (but probably shouldn't go too cheap... the good ones I've had of each of those tend to be in the $10-$14 range)

[info]victoriapringle

December 28 2009, 16:34:59 UTC 2 years ago

Around here the comment is "friends don't let friends drink Barefoot". Having had it this weekend and my SiL's I can see why, awful stuff.

[info]ardor_patientia

December 16 2009, 16:08:37 UTC 2 years ago

at least Merlot went down in price thanks to that over rated movie

[info]mediaguru

December 16 2009, 17:59:48 UTC 2 years ago

my assessment re: varietals and Sideways.

It was pretty accurate in a lot of ways. Merlot is often horrible, just like described in the movie... and I think the reason why has nothing to do with the grape and everything to do with mass production.

Merlot sort of became the "de facto" grape for a lot of low-quality California red wines. When people got "wine in a box", or if people were add a party and were asked whether they wanted "red wine" or "white wine", that usually meant: red = crappy quality Merlot; white = crappy quality Chardonnay. I think this is part of the reason a negative association has been built up with those varietals.

So the bottom line is I think that there was an overabundance of Merlot being produced, and whenever you have a ton of something being made, a lot of it is bound to be bad (case in point: YouTube)

[info]ardor_patientia

December 16 2009, 18:11:40 UTC 2 years ago

But now it's turned into this whole Merlot = Bad. Always. It's been annoying, especially when I was working at a family friend's winery in VA and had people come into the tasting room who would refuse to even taste the Merlot. Actually, maybe that was a good thing, because they ended up having a lot of wine that they gave away super cheap.

Pinot Noir is the grape getting ruined right now. I love Burgandy wines, but I just cannot get into the grape when it's Californian.

[info]mediaguru

December 16 2009, 19:27:49 UTC 2 years ago

Well, like I said, pinots are really region/terroir-dependent.

I tried some up and down Napa Valley, and they were consistently bad (yet cabs here are pretty consistently good)


Then I had Oregon pinots... very good! Then I popped into a place in Calistoga and tried theirs... it was also good, and I was shocked because that's still Napa Valley. But then I looked at the bottle / notes and noticed that the vineyards are not anywhere near Napa... they are at the cooler, wetter California coast (Mendocino county)

So from what I've noticed, some of the cooler, wetter temperate climates (California coast, Oregon, parts of France, Germany) create some good pinots; other climates (especially warm valleys like Napa and Central California) really do not.

And as for Merlot... yes, there are some good ones out there so it's a shame that some (ignorant) "snobs" don't give it a chance. I rarely find a merlot I like, but there have been a few great ones.

[info]ardor_patientia

December 16 2009, 19:31:32 UTC 2 years ago

I do agree that it's hard to find a good Merlot sometimes. However, when it's good, it's really good. I've been drinking a lot more French wines lately, so maybe that's why I'm developing quite a soft spot for this poor little grape.

[info]blindhurt

December 17 2009, 15:02:08 UTC 2 years ago

I agree that that film was utterly and completely over-rated.

[info]mediaguru

December 16 2009, 18:04:58 UTC 2 years ago

As for the color of the pinot -- pinots can vary widely in color and darkness; that rich dark color you describe is the reason why it tasted uncharacteristically tannic, but that doesn't mean that it was necessarily blended with any other grapes.

I think I've noticed the flavor of pinot varying more widely than probably any other grape I've tried, based on region/weather/terroir. I can even tell huge differences from vintage to vintage from the same plot of land (for a lot of grapes, the variation in flavor from year to year seems minimal at best); for example, in Oregon I tried several 2006 and 2007 vintages from the same vineyards. In every case, I liked the 2007 better even though the 2006 was supposedly a "better" or more sought-after year because the weather that year caused bolder, more intense flavors. (So the 2007s were lighter, milder, smooth, and more earthy; the 2006s were darker, more tannic, less earth and more berry)

[info]fade2blk01

December 16 2009, 22:13:07 UTC 2 years ago

I'll mostly agree that a lot of pinots under 20-30 bucks are not that interesting. But lately I have had some in the 15 dollar range that were really quite good. Turned out all of these had come from the Russian River Valley. I think the cheapest of these was Bogle Pinot Noir, from the RRV. I think that was like 12 bucks for that bottle, but still rather good.

Unfortunately for Merlot Sideways did give it a lot of bad press, but alas Miles' character had to be anal about one particular grape (Pinot) and despise another (merlot).
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