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…no really. I am. Sometimes I love to cook with wine and when I do, I really use it. If I cook coq au vin, beef bourguignon, and even some pears in red wine in a week, I might need 3 or more bottles of wine. A couple of years ago, I found a crisp chardonnay from Hardy’s that was great for cooking and it came in a box. I found the box worked wonderful for cooking as it kept the wine fresh as I used it over the course of a couple of weeks. Sadly, when I bought my second box, the wine was heavily oaked. I suppose they were trying to placate the palates of those who love the California style of chardonnay. I really don’t like overly oaked white wine, especially when you reduce and concentrate it in cooking. After one good experience and one bad, I gave up.

In any case, I’m hoping to revisit the idea. Does anyone know of a good boxed white wine for cooking? Something perhaps steel fermented.

Additionally, does anyone know of a nice boxed red for cooking? Perhaps a light bodied Merlot or a Pinot (I doubt a pinot will be priced right however).

Any help would be appreciated. :)
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From:lucylou95816
Date:June 21st, 2006 05:40 pm (UTC)
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I don't know the name of it, but Target sells a box wine that isn't half bad....gulp, I can't believe I said that.
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From:reeeuh
Date:June 21st, 2006 09:12 pm (UTC)
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You know, I've seen their box wines and been tempted but I've been too skeptical. Which have you tried that you liked?
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From:lucylou95816
Date:June 21st, 2006 11:19 pm (UTC)
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I think that I tried the syrah or shiraz. It was a couple of years ago. It had a purple label on the box. We were doing a charity event and wanted to save costs and thought about using it, so we bought a box to taste and it wasn't all that bad.
From:ex_calicoey
Date:June 21st, 2006 05:44 pm (UTC)
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From what I read, more and more wineries are going to be boxing wine. There are already a few decent ones out there. I find that Black Box is pretty good.
From:e_goh
Date:June 21st, 2006 05:46 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for the info. Do you know what varietal you tried?
From:ex_calicoey
Date:June 21st, 2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
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I've had the Chardonnay, the Merlot, and the Cab. Sauvignon. They have a website too. http://www.blackboxwines.com/
From:e_goh
Date:June 21st, 2006 05:55 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for posting the link. Black box says, "They're silky, not buttery." Which leads me to believe they did not undergo malolactic fermentation (which would be great). Did you recal a lot of butter? Do you thing this is a ML wine?
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From:ixzist
Date:June 21st, 2006 06:56 pm (UTC)
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the butter can also be an oak barrel note. i associate the ML more from creaminess in the mouthfeel. i can't speak for the wine in question though, unfortunately.
From:ex_calicoey
Date:June 21st, 2006 10:50 pm (UTC)
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I honestly don't know if it's a malo wine or not. Buttery wines seem heavier to me and I do not recall these wines as heavy.
From:e_goh
Date:June 21st, 2006 11:04 pm (UTC)
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Thanks again for the recommendation! I'm thinking it's not ML as Wilfred Wong calls it "Frisky and tart." He gave it an 87...not bad and at $16.99 for 3 liters.

I'll post back when I have the chance to pick some up from BevMo (should be later this week).
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From:detonate_for_me
Date:June 21st, 2006 05:52 pm (UTC)
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Not sure about whites, but Carmenet has a boxed Merlot and Cabernet.
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From:ixzist
Date:June 21st, 2006 06:58 pm (UTC)
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Vendange is not altogether bad for the money. i think they may have a Sauv Blanc, which is a better choice for cooking than buttery Chard in most cases.
From:stemware
Date:June 22nd, 2006 02:53 am (UTC)
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I'd go for a magnum of Yellow Tail or Smoking Loon. IMHO, food cooked with inferior wine is often inferior as well.
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From:pygmalion_
Date:June 22nd, 2006 10:12 am (UTC)
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I've always thought that Yellow Tail was just boxed wine (cask wine or Goon in Australia) that got lost on it's way.

I was really happy when Lindeman's realised their mistake and started puting the Bin range of wines into cask as well :)
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From:vinwhim
Date:June 22nd, 2006 04:29 am (UTC)
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the target boxed pinot grigio is a good price and has a good structure... definately decent for boxed wine. it's not my *favorite pinot to drink... but it's okay to cook with...

all the other target boxed wines are poorly structured... dont' even think of buying them to cook or drink with:P
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From:pygmalion_
Date:June 22nd, 2006 10:16 am (UTC)
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I don't know if they export, so this may just be for the Aussies on this community, but Morris Red Pressings is pretty much the best value cask wine I've found - their Cabernet is also pretty decent too.
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From:vinwhim
Date:June 22nd, 2006 03:11 pm (UTC)

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love the websites... this all looks nice to try!
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